of legislation, sitting in congress. and it is much ado about nothing, this election is about the economy, the president has not performed. he is chasing every rabbit down the trail to make this thing about his own record, and the miserable condition of the economy. and that is what we'll talk about. >> but isn't the problem? it comes down to trust, and therefore, we have to trust him, generally. and even his position on abortion in the last 12 months has flip-flopped on abortion. >> it has not, piers. >> it has. >> it has not, piers -- >> let me put the allegations to you, and you can respond. the allegation is that he was saying before i want to repeal roe versus wade, and i want to power to go to the state. and he says now he has no plans regarding abortion. so which is it? >> listen, he is referring to whether or not there is some piles of legislation in congress that he is pursuing in his presidency. he is committed to, and has said it still yet today the fact that we will not be funding abortion with taxpayer's money, whether it be in his own budget or whether it be in foreign aid.